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Sept 10, 2003 19:49:24 GMT
Post by Anja on Sept 10, 2003 19:49:24 GMT
PREDSJEDNIK SICG ISPRIÈAO SE HRVATSKOJ
Svetozar Maroviæ, predsjednik Srbije i Crne Gore, uputio je ispriku za "sva zla koja je bilo koji graðanin Srbije i Crne Gore uèinio bilo kome u Hrvatskoj." Maroviæ je ispriku izjavio na tiskovnoj konferenciji nakon razgovora sa Stjepanom Mesiæem. Predsjednik SiCG dodao je kako ne misli da su narodi krivi i da se moraju isprièavati. Dodao je i kako je jedna od veæih obveza SiCG suradnja s Den Haagom i kako svatko tko je pojedinaèno kriv mora odgovarati pred zakonom. Predsjednik Mesiæ kazao je kako prihvaæa tu «simboliènu ispriku» i dodao- "S moje strane mogu reæi da se isprièavam svima onima kojima su graðani Hrvatske, u bilo koje vrijeme, nanijeli bol ili štetu radeæi protivno zakonu i zloupotrebljavajuæi svoju poziciju."
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Sept 12, 2003 14:16:51 GMT
Post by Mirko on Sept 12, 2003 14:16:51 GMT
I am not over the moon about this!
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Sept 12, 2003 14:36:16 GMT
Post by CueRack on Sept 12, 2003 14:36:16 GMT
Just to note... this Marovic fella has apologised on behalf of all citizens of Serbia & Montengro. Good on him... But for reference it should be noted that the apology is only on behalf of the citizens of S&M and cleverly excludes the citizens of Krajina & the Srpksa Republika in BiH. The Serbs living in these areas caused the most deaths and damage to Croatia (not to mention BiH) but are not citizens of Serbia & Montenegro.... So really the apology is good, but clearly falls way short...
As for this thingy Mr Meat, he only apologised on a spur of the moment after hearing Marovic's apology.... The fool wasn't even planning to apologise but felt he had to once the Serbs did....
Why should we be sorry for defending our country against the Serb attacks? I for one would like to call for the retraction of Mr Meat's apology...
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Sept 12, 2003 15:08:39 GMT
Post by KK on Sept 12, 2003 15:08:39 GMT
Opet si U pravU.
Evo zore, evo dana...
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Sept 12, 2003 15:31:30 GMT
Post by Jere on Sept 12, 2003 15:31:30 GMT
Sta zajebavas covika? Ne mora znacit da je ustasa
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Sept 12, 2003 15:32:09 GMT
Post by Anja on Sept 12, 2003 15:32:09 GMT
..he only apologised on a spur of the moment after hearing Marovic's apology.... The fool wasn't even planning to apologise but felt he had to once the Serbs did.... . No. He apologised only for few other reasons: 1. to make "the world" happy..etc 2. because there are so many Croatian companies currently expanding in S&MN ( buying the cheap companies and using the cheap workers in there) and opening the new markets in there. The Croatian media is talking about the expansion a lot recently.. So are we going to see a new workers revolution in future in S&MN : Them getting rid of new croatian financial dominance? |
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Sept 12, 2003 16:25:28 GMT
Post by CueRack on Sept 12, 2003 16:25:28 GMT
No. He apologised only for few other reasons: 1. to make "the world" happy..etc 2. because there are so many Croatian companies currently expanding in S&MN ( buying the cheap companies and using the cheap workers in there) and opening the new markets in there. The Croatian media is talking about the expansion a lot recently.. So are we going to see a new workers revolution in future in S&MN : Them getting rid of new croatian financial dominance? umm.... No, I think you're wrong again.. I don't usually like to respond to Anja's 'words of wisdom'. However I should clarify things so others don't take her words for gospel. If you read the press reports properly you would find that Mesic's apology was not prepared. He did have one ready to say but once Marovic made the apology he felt he had to do the same... S. leadership we have in Croatia don't we?? I suggest you do a little bit of research before coming out with this 'peace and love' sranje you harp on about all too often As for that last comment about the worker's revolution... I'm putting my hands up and saying that I've got no idea what you're on about... Back onto the apology, is it any wonder that not long after the apology by Marovic, that he asked Croatia to remove the law suit against Belgrade for damages against Croatia during the war? Coincidence, or a genuine apology to be nice to us... I'm thinking that it's not because they want to be all chummy with us. It seems to me that the Serbs are again trying to pull the wool over our eyes... ie, be nice to us so that we be nice to them and remove that small little law suit thingy... I mean it's only a few billion dollars anyway... Mr Meat, nor anyone else in the Croatian government made any comment about the law suit, however rest assured that the current government will drop the case to please our orthodox neighbours in the east... I mean, why take money off the serbs anyway... If Mesic had his way, we'll all be one country again so it'll be like taking money off ourselves! |
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Sept 12, 2003 21:09:07 GMT
Post by Anja on Sept 12, 2003 21:09:07 GMT
As for that last comment about the worker's revolution... I'm putting my hands up and saying that I've got no idea what you're on about... This was just my thought thinking about late 80s when we all in Croatia kept moaning about Serbian dominance in Army, factories, businesses.. Well, now when I read about Croats buying businesses and factories in Serbia this thing came to my mind: are their people going to moan now about Croatian presence in Serbia .. Just a logical thought, nothing else. Same time I think that Stipe Mesic went to Serbia not because he loves to be a good neighbour but for the reasons of the new businesses and markets developing on that front and I think this is good for Croatian economy anyway, at least somewhere to sell.. About the law suite, I agree with you.. |
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Sept 15, 2003 8:13:29 GMT
Post by Dalmatinski Srbin on Sept 15, 2003 8:13:29 GMT
No apology could ever be perfect but I still welcome it anyway. The real reason for the apology is a desire for both governments to join the EU and requesting that law suits be dropped and eagerness for Mesic to reclaim old markets in Serbia is really superficial to the real reasons for making an apology.
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Sept 16, 2003 16:15:15 GMT
Post by Guest on Sept 16, 2003 16:15:15 GMT
Moja je pokojna baba znala reci:' Ne mos' posrat pa onda lizat'.
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Sept 16, 2003 22:45:33 GMT
Post by Anja on Sept 16, 2003 22:45:33 GMT
from S
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Sept 16, 2003 22:47:19 GMT
Post by Anja on Sept 16, 2003 22:47:19 GMT
from Slobodna Dalmacija:
Hrvatski proboj na istok
ZAGREB - Posjet predsjednika RH Stjepana Mesiæa zemlji koja je prije deset godina izvršila agresiju na Hrvatsku dodatno æe potaknuti veæ zapoèetu suradnju srpskih i hrvatskih gospodarstvenika, jednoglasna je ocjena ekonomskih analitièara u Hrvatskoj. Doduše, veze poslovnih zajednica dviju zemalja zapoèete su i bez posebnog poticaja politike.
Gospodarska suradnja izmeðu dviju zemalja, naime, iz godine u godinu bilježi rast. Posljednje dvije godine nekoliko hrvatskih tvrtki uspjelo je realizirati i vlasnièki prodor na tržištu Srbije, a pravi prodor analitièari tek oèekuju, buduæi da se i proces privatizacije u Srbiji tek zahuktava. Ulazak u akvizicije u Srbiji, bilo samostalno ili preko strateškog partnera, najavilo je dvadesetak veæih hrvatskih kompanija.
Gospodarsko zaostajanje Srbije posljednjeg desetljeæa doduše osjeæa se u trgovinskim odnosima, u kojima Hrvatska bilježi suficit. Srbija je, inaèe, jedna od rijetkih zemalja s kojom Hrvatska ostvaruje pozitivan saldo u robnoj razmjeni. U prvih sedam mjeseci ove godine hrvatski su izvoznici na tržište Srbije i Crne Gore plasirali 100,6 milijuna dolara roba, za 6,7 posto više nego u isto vrijeme prošle godine, dok jaèa i uvoz roba s podruèja Srbije — uvezeno je u tom razdoblju 41,3 milijuna dolara, za 42 posto više nego u prvih sedam mjeseci prošle godine. Dodatni poticaj robnoj razmjeni zasigurno æe dati i liberalizacija trgovine o kojoj se pregovara.
Dobrim znakom tumaèi se i veliko zanimanje srpskih tvrtki za prezentaciju u Hrvatskoj i obnavljanje starih ili stvaranje novih poslovnih veza s ovu stranu Drine.
Na predstojeæem Jesenskom meðunarodnom zagrebaèkom velesajmu, svoj nastup najavilo je dvadesetak tvrtki iz Srbije i Crne Gore. Na sajmu æe se, naime, predstaviti tvrtke AD Alfa Plam, AD Polet IGK, Agrohem AD, Aleva d.d., agencija Boom Media, Cobest, Coly d.o.o., Dijamant AD, Gena d.o.o., HIP-Petrohemija, Industrija hidraulike i pneumatike Prva proleterka, Informativni centar za izgradnju, Institut za ratarstvo i povrtlarstvo, Kotesprodukt DP, Mesopromet, PIK Beèej poljoprivreda AD, PIK Takovo, Štark AD, Toza Markoviæ AD, Valota d.o.o., a poseban štand imat æe i Privredna komora Srbije, te Udruženje industrijalaca i preduzetnika Srbije i Crne Gore.
Ekonomist Dražen Kalogjera pozdravlja gospodarski proboj na srbijansko tržište kojemu æe posjet predsjednika Hrvatske dati jaki doprinos. Još uvijek su jake psihološke barijere u gospodarskoj suradnji izmeðu Hrvatske i Srbije i Crne Gore, istièe Kalogjera.
Upozorava, meðutim, da ga naš odlazak na to tržište podsjeæa na situaciju iz vremena bivše Jugoslavije kada su ekonomisti upozoravali da æe skupo stajati izvoz roba slabije kvalitete koji su tadašnje tvrtke plasirale na manje zahtjevnom tržištu SSSR-a.
— Dobro je da naše tvrtke idu na to tržište, no ne smiju dopustiti sebi da podcijene to tržište i da razina kvalitete njihova nastupa bude ispod one koja vrijedi u Europskoj uniji — istièe Kalogjera, upozoravajuæi da æe tržišna utakmica na srbijanskom tržištu biti sve oštrija.
Doduše, još je puno otvorenih pitanja i "planina" koje treba svladati, od povrata imovine brojnih tvrtki koja je ostala s druge strane granice, sukcesije do normalizacije prometa i viznog režima.
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