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Post by Sam on Nov 22, 2004 14:42:12 GMT
Does anyone know if there is a Croatian social club in the Manchester area? My husband is Croatian, and I am trying to make friends with other Croatian families in the area to expose our little boy to the language and culture - 5 weeks in the summer is not really making a lasting impression!
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Post by vale on Nov 22, 2004 17:32:37 GMT
sorry i can help you with the Manchester area but can with NW London... i think that what you are trying to do is really nice as i also belive it is important for children to know their background... good luck Vale
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Post by goga on Nov 23, 2004 17:49:36 GMT
hey Sam!!! im Croatian, my fiancee is English, and we live in Manchester area! if you want we can meet one day... send me more abaut you two, how old are you??? goga
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Post by Sam1 on Nov 23, 2004 21:33:09 GMT
Hi Goga, Amazing, another Croatian in Manchester - we are on the south side of Manchester, just outside Stockport, where are you? I am 33 and my husband is 37 - Alen is originally from Dalmatia, I see you are from Slavonija - it would be great to meet up if possible
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Post by natko74 on Nov 24, 2004 11:46:39 GMT
Hi Sam my husband and I are both Croatians and we're in Stockport. You can pop in any time. Cheers
P.S. There isn't any Croatian club in Manchester area.
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Post by hawoy on Nov 24, 2004 11:52:23 GMT
pozdrav iz didsburyja...
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Post by Goga on Nov 24, 2004 14:32:11 GMT
hi sam, Nice to hear that you are not too far away. My fiancee's father lives in Wilmslow so just down the road from you. We are in sunny rochdale ..the good part!! it would be nice to meet up. We are both 32. If you like you can give me a call to have a chat...the number is 01706 711262....it would be nice to chat. Look forward to hearing from you and say bok to your hubbie.. Gordana and Stephen
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Post by stipe in oldham on Dec 9, 2004 20:50:06 GMT
hi welcome 2 the weather sam, dont know about a social club but a pub night might not be a bad idea, there used 2 b a small croatian community in the oldham area that organized 'socials' but sadly it faded away with time long ago, still a friday night club hrvatska, a few pivos, a bit of small talk might b fun
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Post by Sam 2 on Dec 10, 2004 15:17:34 GMT
If you are looking for parents of kids of mixed nationality (Brit/Croat) who need to improve their Croatian then we have one aged 5. We are down the M62 in Liverpool. There's another such couple nearby whose kids speak Croatian better than our son as they speak the language all the time at home. Trouble is that unless children really only speak the immigrant language, they will tend to use that of the host country amongst themselves - in this case English. Give us a shout though if you want to meet, Marina would be glad to here from you. prykes@hope.ac.uk .
So far as I know there isn't even a formal, organised Croatain club in London.
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Post by goga on Dec 15, 2004 1:12:56 GMT
Sorry Sam2... I am Goga's long partner and from England. After reading your reply, i'm a little bit confused on your wording ...what do you mean "immigrant language" ?? Am i just reading you wrong or are you just so insensitive Why do say immigrant..are you just so bad a person that you seem afraid to say Croatian? If you cannot even write "croatian" and refer it to as "immigrant language"..what the hell are you doing even replying on this web site and more over you are with a croatian and do you call him immigrant instead of husband. I'm sorry that i write a little bit harsh but you don't seemed to have realized what you wrote. I hope i am wrong but from what you wrote....it gives a totally different impression....If i am wrong, ok...but please check what you write before you post it....
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Post by leopard on Dec 15, 2004 10:08:32 GMT
goga - don't you think you are overreacting? in the context its clear that sam2 was talking generally about children of first generation immigrants, and was not avoiding saying "croatian". in any case "immigrant" is not a dirty word unless you let it be.
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Post by goga on Dec 16, 2004 15:18:02 GMT
leopard, thats not mine opinion, you can c in beginning, that text is written by my fiencee!! but anyway, i dont think that "imigrant" is bad word, just is not apropiate for croats(imigrant is somebody who pass the border unlegaly, want benifits etc... croats is the nation who work hard, and not do stuff "unlegaly"...
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Post by leopard on Dec 17, 2004 9:27:13 GMT
hi goga
an immigrant is simply someone who migrates into a country as a settler. anybody who comes to the UK to live and work is an immigrant. the definition of immigrant has nothing at all to do with crossing borders illegally or getting benefits (although, there are some immigrants who do that). i think a lot of people could be offended if you equate immigration with laziness.
l.
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Post by goga on Dec 17, 2004 16:45:31 GMT
yes L!!! the def. off Immigrant is: " a person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there" and can be for anybody... im not sooooo picky, just saund bad when a familly-member call partner, an immigrant..
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Post by Sam 2 on Dec 18, 2004 7:44:01 GMT
If I went to live in Croatia - which one day we might assuming that we can still afford a villa there - I would be an 'immigrant', given that I was born and brought up in Britain of English parents. My brother who lives in Chicago is an 'immigrant' to the US. As Marina my wife was born in Yugoslavia as it was she is an 'immigrant' to the UK. We live in an world of migration and immigration. This forum is a tiny example of it. Things get more problematic when applied to the children of immigrants. I certainly would not describe my son as an immigrant as he was born in the country he lives in, Britain. That would be the case even if I were Croat. But then it depends how you define nationality and citizenship doesn't it?
However, as pointed out, the point I was making was a general one about the use of language amongst the children of immigrants. It applies to any nationality and country. Therefore, if we went to live in Croatia, Georgie, our son, would after a little while begin to speak the native language, Croatian, to all children - even with children who speak some English to their parents at home because one or both are English speaking immigrants.
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